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    Contingency Sourcing Project: Classification (Level 1 or Level 2), Estimated Cost follow this discussion

    started 4 months ago by

    Hi Folks,

    I have a contingency search, and I want to find out what type of sourcing it might require (Internet or Telephone, Level 1 or Level 2, as per: Glen's fine article below which I previously posted) and what you think it might cost for 10-15 hours of work.

    With your permission, I'd like to let the group know what I find out from you without releasing names.
    Thank You,
    Keith H
    keithsrj@sbcglobal.net
    +1.415.586.8265

    Head Hunting Spec

    Position/Title

    Sr. Account Manager

     

    Location & local area codes if any

    Greater Los Angeles, CA Area Codes

          213 - Downtown Los Angeles, surrounded by 323 (October, 1947)

          310 - Santa MonicaMalibuPacific PalisadesComptonTorranceBeverly HillsCatalina Island; the southwestern portion of Los Angeles County. (Split from 213 on November 2, 1991; overlaid by 424 on August 26, 2006)

          323 - a ring around downtown Los Angeles, including the Hollywood and Eagle Rock districts of Los Angeles, FlorenceMontebello and East Los Angeles. (Split from 213 on June 13, 1998)

          424 - Overlay to 310 (see above) (August 26, 2006)

          562 - Long BeachWhittier;NorwalkLakewoodBellflowerCerritos, southeast Los Angeles County and a small portion of coastal Orange County. (Split from 310 on January 25, 1997)

          626 - PasadenaEl MonteWest Covina; the San Gabriel Valley and eastern suburbs of Los Angeles. (Split from 818 on June 14, 1997)

          657 - AnaheimHuntington BeachSanta AnaOrangeGarden Grove; northern and western Orange County(overlay with 714) (September 23, 2008)

          714 - AnaheimHuntington BeachSanta AnaOrangeGarden Grove; northern and western Orange County(Overlay with Area code 657) (Split from 213 on January 1, 1951)

          747 - Will overlay 818, effective May 18, 2009.

          818 - BurbankGlendale, the North HollywoodVan NuysPanorama CitySherman Oaks and Northridgedistricts of Los Angeles; the San Fernando Valley. (Split from 213 on January 7, 1984)

          909 - San BernardinoOntarioPomona, and Chino; eastern Los Angeles County and southwestern San Bernardino County. (Split from 714 on November 14, 1992)

          949 - IrvineLaguna BeachNewport BeachSan Juan Capistrano; southern and eastern Orange County. (Split from 714 on April 18, 1998)

          951 - RiversideCoronaMoreno ValleyPerrisTemeculaMurrieta; western Riverside County. (Split from 909 on July 17, 2004)

     

    Company URL

     

    Priority (high -low)

    Medium-high

     

    Position Description

    Sr AM (Los Angeles, CA)
Client: a multibillion dollar global managed health care company
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Engagement details: $20m/year engagement involving standard IT services and also non-traditional models like SaaS and subscription business models. Team size = 200+. Candidate must have healthcare domain expertise and strong communication and relationship management skills to interface at C-level for this $10b - $15b company.

     

    Essential Qualifications

    Experience selling IT/Consulting services to the Healthcare Vertical

     

    Desirable Qualifications

    “A book of business”

     

     Companies/industries of particular interest

    “Big 5”, “Next Tier” or large Indian Consulting Companies

     

    Companies/Industries of no interest

     

     

    Target Companies

    IBM Global Business Services

    ArmonkNY

    190,000

     

    Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu

    New YorkNY

    155,000

     

    KPMG

    New YorkNY

    136,500

     

    Electronic Data Systems

    PlanoTX

     

     

    Ernst & Young

    New YorkNY

    135,000

     

    HP Technology Solutions

    Palo AltoCA

    105,000

     

    Computer Sciences Corporation

    Falls ChurchVA

    91,000

     

    Affiliated Computer Services

    DallasTX

    62,000

     

    Cognizant Technology Solutions

    TeaneckNJ

    60,000+

     

    Science Applications International Corporation

    La JollaCA

    44,000

     

    Unisys

    Blue BellPA

    31,000

     

    CGI Group

    MontrealCanada

    26,500

     

    Perot Systems

    PlanoTX

    21,000

     

    Booz Allen Hamilton

    McLeanVA

    19,000

     

    BearingPoint

    McLeanVA

    17,500

     

    Keane Inc

    BostonMA

    14,500

     

    Titan Corporation

    San Diego, CA

    12,000

    TCS

    Wipro

    HCL

    Axon Consulting

    and other Business Solutions Consulting Co’s

     

    Additional information if any

    Here are some questions:

    * Do you have an exclusive?  Rarely depends on the client sometimes as few as 3 vendors

    * How motivated is the client? Depends on requirement;  You would be working those where we intend to get action and placements and movement and feedback

    * What is the hiring process?  Generally a phone screen then a technical phone screen then..Depends

    * Are there any additional specific qualifications required? Do you have a fuller description of their responsibilities? 

    Not for these two positions

    * Education background? 4 year degree minimum
* Years of experience?    5+ years for all positions…about 10+ for sales positions

    * What would disqualify an otherwise suitable candidate?  Already presented or applied himself to Company

    * You mentioned a base of $120-$170k. What's the OTC?
* Does it allow for relocation candidates? Some jobs do..these sales jobs do not;  they want someone in the area who already is calling on clients etc

    * Will the individuals need to come in to the office each day when they are not visiting clients, or can they work remotely? Most of the others require either traveling or in the office most days unless at a client site

    * How many individuals do you want presented?   2 good candidates per requirement. (I’d like 5, please. –kh_)

     The Two Levels of Candidate Sourcing

     

     Posted at October 20, 2009

     Many individuals and organizations treat the sourcing role and

     function of recruiting – searching for and identifying potential

     candidates – as an entry level position, and/or a simple and basic

     task that does not require much skill or experience.

     

     I agree.

     

     I believe that it does not take much skill or experience to simply

     transcribe job titles and required skill keywords into LinkedIn,

     Monster, or an ATS and click “search.”

     

     However, that oversimplified view of sourcing talent only describes

     the most basic level of talent identification, of which, I believe

     there are at least two.

     

     Level 1 Sourcing

     

     Level 1 Sourcing involves little more than taking titles and words

     from job descriptions and entering them into Internet search 

     engines,

     social networks, job board resume databases, and applicant tracking

     systems to search for candidates.

     

     This is the proverbial “buzzword bingo,” and does not necessarily

     involve any real understanding (beyond surface level) of the roles,

     skills, responsibilities, or technologies involved in the hiring

     profiles or the candidates. These basic search terms produce search

     results that are then cursorily reviewed for keyword matching.

     

     Level 1 Sourcing involves a level of matching potential candidates 

     to

     hiring profiles that is often superficial and generic – very little,

     if any, interpretive analysis is performed. This level of sourcing 

     can

     in fact quite easily be performed by “junior” personnel/ 

     researchers –

     almost anyone can match keywords.

     

     Not only can Level 1 Sourcing be performed by junior associates, it

     can (and often is) outsourced for $5 – $7 an hour.

     

     However, don’t be fooled into thinking you are getting something

     fantastic for that $5 – $7 an hour – you’re getting exactly what

     you’ve paid for. Which is Level 1 Sourcing.

     

     In my opinion, there is no need to outsource Level 1 Sourcing, 

     because

     it does not require any deep understanding of the roles being 

     sourced

     for, nor does it involve any true analysis or creativity. As such,

     Level 1 Sourcing is well suited for total automation. Why pay people

     to match keywords when matching applications can do it for you for

     considerably less than $5 per hour?

     

     Many people are blissfully unaware of the fact that Level 1 Sourcers

     from any company will essentially find the same potential candidates

     as any other Level 1 Sourcer. It’s a simple equation: same 

     keywords =

     same results. This is one of the reasons why Level 1 Sourcing 

     provides

     no competitive advantage.

     

     Additionally, while Level 1 Sourcers can and will find SOME

     candidates, they will not and can not find ALL potentially qualified

     candidates available to them in the sources they are searching - 

     that

     would be impossible, for many reasons that I’ve written about

     previously that are beyond the scope of this post.

     

     And finally, Level 1 Sourcers are typically unaware of the people 

     that

     are in the ATS, job board resume database, or social network that 

     they

     are searching that their queries did not return. In fact, to them,

     anyone that they don’t find simply doesn’t exist.

     

     Level 2 Sourcing

     

     This is the good stuff. Level 2 Sourcing moves well beyond simple

     keyword matching and most certainly beyond a basic mastery of 

     Boolean

     logic.

     

     Boolean logic is easy to learn – after all, there’s only 3 main

     operators! However, the “magic” of leveraging databases and

     information systems for talent identification does not lie in the

     Boolean search operators themselves, but in the following process:

     

     Analyzing, understanding, and interpreting job opening/position

     requirements - including elements which may or may not be explicitly

     mentioned in the position description or BQ’s

     Taking that understanding and intelligently and creatively selecting

     titles, skills, technologies, companies, responsibilities, terms,

     etc., to include (or to purposefully exclude!) in a query employing

     appropriate Boolean operators and query modifiers

     Analyzing the results of the initial search to assess relevance as

     well as scanning the results for additional and alternate relevant

     search terms, phrases, and companies

     Based upon the observed relevance of and intel gained from the 

     search

     results, modifying the search string appropriately and running it 

     again

     Repeating steps 3 and 4 until an acceptably large volume of highly

     relevant results is achieved

     The “real” work of creating effective Boolean search strings lies in

     the interpretive analysis of the need, in determining what terms to

     include and exclude from searches and in what specific 

     combination, in

     the analysis of the relevance of the initial search results, and in

     the adaptive process of learning from the results to creatively 

     refine

     the Boolean search strings to find well qualified candidates – 

     people

     who are highly likely to be (or know!) the right match for any

     particular hiring need.

     

     Unlike Level 1 Sourcing, Level 2 Sourcing involves and in fact

     requires a deeper understanding of the roles, skills,

     responsibilities, and technologies involved in the hiring profiles

     being sourced for. In this regard, Level 2 Sourcing goes well beyond

     explicit keyword matching and deep into implied experience and

     capability matching.

     

     In addition to finding all of the candidates that Level 1 Sourcers 

     can

     find, Level 2 Sourcers can also find the candidates that Level 1

     Sourcers have access to, but can not and do not find. Interestingly,

     all Level 2 Sourcers will not find all of the same candidates,

     specifically due to their varying experience and creative and

     analytical ability.

     

     And unlike Level 1 Sourcers, Level 2 Sourcers are acutely aware of 

     the

     candidates they have not found, because they understand that every

     Boolean string and search strategy will find some candidates, and

     exclude others.

     

     Level 2 Sourcing is Not a Junior Role and Cannot Be Automated

     

     It is precisely because of the aforementioned reasons that Level 2

     Sourcing cannot be performed by junior level associates – it is not

     an entry level role, nor can it be outsourced for $5 – $7 an hour.

     Okay, it CAN be outsourced at those rates, but you won’t get Level 2

     results. Remember, you get what you pay for.

     

     Level 2 sourcing cannot be automated, regardless of what the vendor

     representatives of “artificial intelligence” resume parse/match

     applications may claim. This is because Level 2 sourcing requires “a

     posteriori” knowledge – which comes from experience, which comprises

     knowledge and skill gained through involvement and exposure.

     

     Applications do not accumulate experience or gain knowledge or 

     skill,

     in the true sense of the terms.

     

     AI matching applications essentially perform a form of pattern

     recognition to classify data through parsing resumes and employing a

     keyword/phrase taxonomy, which is built based on “a priori” 

     knowledge/

     information extracted from the patterns and programmed into the

     matching logic.

     

     I recently spoke at the PDS Technology Conference and had the 

     honor of

     seeing Dr. Michio Kaku present on the world of 2020 and beyond. Dr.

     Kaku believes that “Progress in artificial intelligence may come 

     to a

     gradual halt around 2020. The two problems facing AI are pattern

     recognition and common sense.”

     

     I was happy to hear that Dr. Michio Kaku believes that the 

     employment

     market of the future will be “dominated by jobs involving common 

     sense

     (e.g. leadership, judgment, entertainment, art, analysis, 

     creativity)

     and pattern recognition (e.g. vision and non-repetitive jobs). Jobs

     like brokers, tellers, agents, low level accountants and jobs

     involving inventory and repetition will be eliminated.”

     

     That’s great news for anyone performing Level 2 Sourcing, primarily

     because it requires creativity, interpretive analysis, judgment, and

     common sense (a natural understanding based upon experience) - four

     things that machines and applications are intrinsically incapable 

     of.

     

     Unlike AI matching applications, Level 2 Sourcers intrinsically

     understand that resumes and social media profiles are imperfect and

     incomplete representations of the people who created them, and that

     they often do not explicitly mention all of their skills and

     experience. As such, Level 2 Sourcers are not only able to find

     qualified candidates based on the words they use - many can also

     specifically search for and find people who have experience that 

     they

     do not mention. In other words, some Level 2 Sourcers can find 

     people

     based on what they don’t say. This is a skill that can only be

     developed over time from observation and experience.

     

     Final Thoughts

     

     Level 1 Sourcing can be performed by entry level associates or be

     completely automated, as the level of matching produced is 

     superficial

     and based primarily on explicit keyword and phrase matching. This 

     can

     be quite sufficient for static and repetitive hiring needs for 

     simple

     hiring profiles, where title searches will often suffice.

     

     The value and the results provided by Level 1 and Level 2 Sourcing 

     is

     vastly different - this is why some organizations see the sourcing

     function as a low level or junior role, simply outsource it for $5 –

     $7 and hour, or completely automate it. Interestingly, there are

     sourcers who make $50 to over $100 an hour, and they are worth every

     penny for the competitive advantage and value they provide to the

     organizations they support.

     

     Dr. Michio Kaku would classify Level 1 Sourcing as ”commodity based

     capital,” in that it is a product that is the same no matter who

     produces it - man, woman, or machine.

     

     People who perform Level 2 Sourcing are true knowledge workers, 

     whose

     value is intellectual capital – based in creativity, judgment,

     analysis, ”common sense” and “a posteriori” knowledge developed over

     time based upon experience – similar to senior Financial Analysts,

     Business Analysts, Data Analysts and Business Intelligence Analysts.

     Level 2 Sourcers produce a product that is quite different based on

     who produces it, and it cannot be reliably replicated by machines.

     

     To be sure, one could easily break Level 2 Sourcing out to at 

     least 3

     different levels, because to lump everything more advanced and

     sophisticated than Level 1 Sourcing into one broad category is

     horribly limiting, but for the purposes of this article, it shall

     suffice.

     

     Human Capital Data data is the sword of the 21st century – those who

     wield it well are the Sourcing Samurai.

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