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Observation Across The Pond: Third Party Still Dominant follow this blog post

"If I were to randomly stop and ask a 100 people in the streets of London, 'How did you find your job?' and then repeated it in other cities and towns in the rest of the UK , what would they say? How many would point to some part of the internet?"
 
This was one of the questions I posed to a panel of job board owners and general managers during the final session at Onrec's London conference yesterday but similar interesting discussions cropped up several times Tuesday with corporate recruiting leaders who were decrying the state of their "primary vendor" (3rd party placement firms) model.
 
One member of the job board panel addressed the issue by describing the pounds spent on online help-wanted advertising versus print versus placement agencies but the answer appeared tougher to answer than I thought it should be.
 
Apparently there is no Source of Hire study (flawed or not) in the UK. Hmmm, perhaps I should spend less time bitching about the lack of data integrity of US SOH studies...nah.
 
"So", I asked several of the corporate delegates I met during the day, "if no one knows the answer to Source of Hire, then just help me out by guessing how many hires (in a typical medium to large corporation- ones that have a recruiting leader and a team or teams of recruiters) come from 3rd party hires?"
 
The agreed on answer from about a dozen folks representing some of the UK's largest and best known firms was that somewhere north of 30% of all hires come through agencies. And several opined that if the real number were to turn out to be double that then they would not be a surprised. Must be a British way of saying they were conservative.
 
"And what would be a 'good' figure for hires resulting from employee referrals?", I pressed in another discussion.
 
Most felt 10-15% would be very good and doubt many at all are beyond 5%.
 
The surprise for me is that the resistance and slow adoption of online technology like ATSs is not only directly related to the money being spent on 3rd party agencies but it has only nominally changed in the last couple years. Of course the adoption of technology by 3rd party angencies is very high. Of course, the money is really really good. Ask any US recruiting leader about what keeps them up at night in globally integrating their UK counterpapers and you will likely hear about these costs.
 
In some ways the UK's embedded recruiting model is a variation on outsourcing and to bring it, hire sourcers, develop non-transactional recruiters with consulting skills, etc. they have to make the business case and, they have few benchmarks.
 
There was also an unusual response (at least I thought it unusual) when I asked the pane about how they saw "job boards evolving in the next year or so and adding services such as applications to assist corporate clients screen candidates."
 
The CareerBuilder GM quickly and pointedly claimed that they were not in that business and that the business of a job board was to drive leads and that was it. Others chimed in... in agreement. Too bad. I had a good follow up question for the answer I thought I would get. Pays not to make assumptions.
 
Enjoyed the conference and trade show, learned a lot since my last trip and had a fabulous Indian diner at the Cinnamon Club that would rival some of my favorite diners of any cuisine in Chicago, New York or even, New Orleans.
 
 

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  • 1 point 6 months ago

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  • 1 point 2 years ago

    Hi Gerry Sorry that I didn't get a chance to catch up at David's conference - pesky clients meant I couldn't get there this year.

    Am I surprised by the responses you had? Not a bit. I have now been over here for over 25 years, most of that spent in the recruitment industry, as a recruiter (typical agency, running IT contractors to Europe from England, then running my own search firm). Latterly (the last 10 years- ever since taking on the European MD role for Resumix in 97-99), I have been on the soapbox trying to get UK PLC to use technology in the recruitment process. Colleagues such as Pete Gold and I estimate that corporate take up of an ATS is maybe about 25-30%. Corporate recruitment sites - 94% of the FTSE 100 (according to Taleo research), yet of those almost half only allow canidates to apply by email.

    As to the recruitment agencies, with over 22,000 in business on any given day, it is now wonder that most people look to an agency for their route to a job. For HR, it is easy to 'just call an agency', as the alternative has been very very expensive print advertising. Now, with over 1300 job boards in the UK on any given day and estimates of 12 million online job seekers, one would think the dynamic is shifting. However, as long as HR does not put in place the systems and processes to manage candidate flow and the Hiring Experience (not just the process), companies will still to resort to 'the same old same old' way of recruiting.

    As to referrals, we did some research while examining the market for Jobster to enter the UK last year. Of 25 top UK companies we surveyed, all but one claimed to have a referral programme, yet number of hires was consistently less than 10%. One company even noted that although it had a referral programme, it didn't actually tell its employees it existed!

    I have run ROI workshops for years, with the biggest barrier no or little historical data. Trying to get to Quality of Hire data is a long way off.

    Let me add, though, there are some outstanding companies doing all that you and the rest of us have been preaching for years - and I am ever hopeful that it will get better. However, the chance of 3rd party hiring dropping by 30-50% in the next five years? Slim and none.(unfortunately)

    Best regards

    Alan Whitford Abtech Partership

  • 1 point 2 years ago

    Great comment. It is absolutely a question of performance. Our personal preferences for staffing models notwithstanding, it is about efficiency and productivity.

    In a small homogeneous class conscious society I'm guessing that personal connections, college ties and other characteristics contributed to the evolution of relationships between hiring managers and third party suppliers over decades and...centuries. It was (and is)a simple model. There was no "human resource" function or internal staffing group to muck up the works. The "right" person, a generalist, could eseentially do nearly any job, was willing to apprentice if necessary, and their family "face" was at stake if they failed or left abruptly. Contact information was privately held, and not very transparent so the third party players, who could access the right people were also quite an exclusive club.

    As societies opened up and matured, specialists began to trump generalists when it came to specific jobs and just-in-time drove apprentice and ojt programs to the back. Except at the highest leadership levels, contact information was transparent and relationships were more broadly defined and understood as merely degrees of seperation. Demographics shifted. Access to higher education broadened. Anyone could broker anyone so the obstacles to entry into the third party placement world all but disappeared and the just about every tried it at sometime in their career (along with real estate broker). At the same time, the demands on the employer to deal with increasing complexities of balancing a diverse pool of candidates, understand core competencies- skills knowledge and experiences embedded in jobs and aligning jobs, functions and teams with longer term business goals and values required more of third parties than most could supply giving rise to a small but growing group of internal specialists that could choose and build different channels for different job families, proactively consult with internal clients and argue for changes as well as develop better planning. Not all of the folks in this category were up to the task either.

    In the US, while 5% of the hires that come through 3rd party in large firms overall probably rises (no one knows for sure)to upwards of 25-50% as the size of the firm drops toward a 50-100 employees. The percentage also increases in all firms the higher one goes in level. Most CEOs, University Presidents, etc. come through an "Agency".

    Few firms have truly measurable processes in place to maximize their savings and demonstrate no loss in quality measures vis-a-vis the source of hire channels they choose. My bet is that US firms with 1000 or more employees are using external solutions at about twice the rate they need to if they were to instead develop and implement better process maps.

    I believe in the UK, soon, you will begin to see firms advertise jobs that are asterisked as "not through third party" to send a message to candidates to not rely on third party placement. These will mostly be US multinationals with solid ATS platforms in place and a mandate to integrate globally. In 3-5 years, the percentage of third party placement of total hires will drop by 50%. Efficiency and productivity will absolutely drive to the bottom line.

  • 1 point 2 years ago

    Gerry,

    Very interesting blog report. I have often wondered myself why the British use agencies more than we do here in the United States. I would be curious to know if you thought it was more or less efficient for an economy to have a heavier reliance on agencies vs sourcing internally.

    It would be really neat to see a case study on the performance of companies with this heavy reliance on agencies vs the performance of light users. As I learn more about customers in this industry, I am seeing the highest performers rely more heavily on outside agencies even as they grow to mature companies.

    Jeremy