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Interviewing the Newton Way: A Guide to Interviewing Knowledge Workers follow this blog post

To say that I think a lot about recruiting and hiring is an understatement. Before I co-founded a technology company that builds recruiting software, my business partner and I, started and ran a couple of recruiting firms, an RPO and over the years managed dozens of corporate recruiting departments. In addition to helping countless other organizations hire, we've had to build quite a few of our own teams in the past ten years. Along the way, we've developed a successful interviewing methodology that we've employed both internally and externally for dozens of our clients.

While hiring remains one of the most dynamic business processes in most companies, one variable remains constant; identifying the right people for professional-level jobs is difficult. A modern workforce strategy should look not only to increase its hiring throughput, but also look to increase retention and develop lower-skilled employees into higher-skilled and more valuable ones. A well-run interview process won't just reduce the risk of a bad hire it can also reduce the complexity and number of hires needed in the future.

A well-run interview process won't just reduce the risk of a bad hire it can also reduce the complexity and number of hires needed in the future.

 


Ability at the Center

Ability is the primary element of modern workforce strategy. The ability, or skill, of the individuals you hire and employ determines your company's ability to execute. If you run an accounting firm and do not have people with tax preparation skills you can't do tax preparation for customers. All of the components that compose your human capital strategy, retention, development and acquisition are related to the amount of ability your organization possesses and the amount it needs to reach its goals. You acquire ability by hiring, you develop ability by training, and you maintain ability by retention.

Retention's Relation to Character

Obviously, retention reduces the number of people a company needs to hire. And your company's retention strategy is tightly linked with the character of the individuals you hire. Character, as we will discuss later, is the answer to, "Do I want to work with this person?" If you ignore character screening in your interview process, then you can expect to injure retention. Companies screen for character, often times without really knowing it. This is why in small companies the CEO always conducts the final interview and in larger ones people much higher up the ladder like to interview every person in their department: they are making sure that the person will mesh with the culture and not cause retention problems.

Talent's Relation to Development

Where retention reduces the number of hires required, employee development reduces the complexity of those hires and alleviates some of the pressure placed on the hiring infrastructure. Interviewing for talent correlates to your organization's employee development strategy. Where ability measures what someone is able to do, talent measures potential. As we will discuss later, talent is the answer to the question, "Can this person grow with my company?" By effectively screening for and gauging talent in the interview process you will eventually reduce the specialization level of future openings. The less complex an opening is the more people that can do the job and the less it costs to fill.

Making the Determination-Interviewing For Ability, Talent and Character

When we interview we are trying to create a hypothetical environment to mimic a real-world situation. This simulation will hopefully enable us to reduce the risk of making a bad hire by giving us a fair estimation of the candidate's performance in our real-world environment. What measurements will give us the best prediction of performance? The three critical measurements are:

Ability: "Can the person do the job they are interviewing for today?"

Talent: "How well does this person fit our long-term objectives?"

Character: "Do we want to work with this person?"

 

What is Ability?

Ability is the measure of a person's skill and experience and correlates to a job description's "must haves". When a company interviews for ability, they are trying to determine if the person can accomplish the minimum requirements of the position. The simplest question to ask is, "Can the person do the job?" Another, perhaps more concise question is, "Can the person be effective in this role immediately?"

Ability determines the execution ability of a company. To slightly oversimplify, the more ability a company's workforce maintains the more it can get done. Of course, ability is affected by things like work ethic and decision making. But in theory, a company with three software developers can write three times more code than a company that has one software developer.

For some jobs, ability level might be the only concern: "Can they cut down a tree?" For others positions, and this depends on the job as well as the company, there are two other measurements-talent and character. Knowledge workers require high degrees of skill but also high quantities of talent and character. For example, hiring someone to flip burgers may only require the ability to flip burgers since it does not require a great deal of talent or character. On the other hand a Vice President of Marketing requires ability, but talent and character are probably just as important.

Since skill and experience are largely objective measurements, ability is then the easiest and least expensive to identify. "Is the person ethical" is a much more subjective and nuanced question than, "Can the person write HTML?" Since the latter measurement is largely objective we can use lower-cost resources (lower-level employees) to measure ability. Once we have inexpensively confirmed that the person has the skill to accomplish the job responsibilities we can move to more subjective questions that require more adept interviewers.

Ability First

Only after the interview process has determined the ability level of a candidate is adequate should we focus on the more costly measurements of talent and character. If the person can not do the job there is no reason to confirm whether they can grow with the job or if they fit the corporate culture. Perhaps this sounds strong. But for both candidate and company alike, spending time in interviews that test for cultural fit and growth potential before we know if they can do what is required of them day-one is a waste of everyone's time. Thus, the first step in the interview process should be to gauge ability level; it is the easiest and cheapest to identify and a "must-have" requirement.

 

What is Talent?

"How well does this person fit our long-term objectives?" This is an appropriate way to correlate talent's importance to interviewing and hiring. Every company has immediate needs, and those immediate needs, like tax preparation or Java coding, are what we look for in ability. Talent optimizes these abilities and it should also map to long-term corporate objectives, like managing teams or launching an office.

In older economies talent had some importance but perhaps not as much as skill (if you need someone to chop down a tree, do you need them to design a saw as well?). In knowledge-worker organizations problem solving and decision making are often as important as skill.

If you map talent acquisition to corporate development objectives you can actually build the higher-value employees in your company instead of hiring them from outside. Look at why some companies hire college recruits: the ability requirement is low, but they hope to build ability through talent development. For companies like consulting firms and investment banks it is more effective to build the talent for five years then to recruit someone with five years of experience. In many industries we simply do not have the luxury of a five-year training window-so we can not solely screen for talent.

Talent can be measured with behavioral and problem-solving questions. Behavioral questions measure a person's past performance in certain situations, which give us a measure of their decision-making abilities. It takes a skilled interviewer and appropriate content to drive this stage of the interview cycle. If you ask someone to name a time they were given a project with little supervision or resources and how they dealt with it, you get a very subjective response.

 

Talent Second

Talent is more difficult to identify than ability. Whereas ability measurements like skill-testing produce results that are easy to measure (it is easy to see that 2+2=5 is the wrong answer), talent measurements require more interactive open-ended questions. Not only do we need to spend more time with the applicant to gauge talent, we need a more skilled resource to measure it. Thus the measurement of talent becomes more expensive. However, talent is more easily identified than character so we should take care in identifying talent in the middle stages of the interview cycle. If the person does not fit our development strategy, does not solve problems well or makes bad decisions it is likely a waste of resources to see if they augment corporate culture.

 

What is Character?

"Do I want to work with this person?" "Will this person have a positive effect on our culture?" Both of these questions are appropriate measures of character's value to the interview process. Like talent, character enhances the output of ability. Someone can be very skilled, but if they are difficult to manage then the value of their skill is reduced. Character also maps to broader human capital objectives in that it closely aligns with employee retention. If you hire disagreeable people your turnover is likely to be higher than average.

Character can be measured by behavioral interviewing questions and psychological testing. It is often not the response that is important, but the way the response is given. An answer that says "yes" but has associated body language that is contrary to the answer is a character "red flag".

 

Character Last, but Always

Of the three, ability, talent and character, the nebulous nature of character makes it by far the most difficult to quantify. Due to this problem, the last stage of interviewing requires the highest value employees to competently measure character. In a well-run interview process we desire to reduce the risk of a bad hires as well as maximize the time and effort of employees. No one will say in an interview that they are not a hard worker or that they have a bad temper. In light of this, character should be measured near the end of the interview process by very adept interviewers whose opinion will be trusted.

In saying that character should be measured near the end of the interview process, we do not intend to say it should not be looked for earlier. Care should be taken at all stages to identify risk associated with character. Although we can tolerate some deficiencies in talent and skill, deficiencies in character are almost always a reason for a no-hire.

Don't' forget, candidates are interviewing your company too.

Marketing

Interviewing is certainly the process by which we make the determination to hire someone. However, there is also a critical component to this process-creating interest in potential employees. Just as bad filtration will lead to poor interview success (since we will be interviewing people that can't do the job), a lack of effective marketing will lead to poor acceptance ratios in the Finish stage.

 

Every interviewer must understand that although the corporate goal is to reduce the risk of a bad hire, a candidate is trying to reduce their risk of taking a bad job. Therefore, companies must take care to provide information to the candidate that will reduce the perception of risk.

Marketing must be a component of all stages of the hiring lifecycle. At the "Face" stage, we can map marketing's objectives to the interview triangle:

Ability: What will the candidate be doing? Why is this interesting?

Talent: What growth opportunities will the candidate have?

Character: Why should the candidate want to work for the company?

Effective marketing will answer these questions for the candidate as early in the process as possible and reinforce them at all stages. The later the stage in the hiring process when marketing actually begins the less effective it becomes. If you save your marketing punch for the closing stage of a candidate's offer its reception will be lukewarm. Inserting a corporate spokesperson (ideally a future co-worker) into the interview process is highly effective in increasing offer acceptance ratios.

The company that provides the most information to a candidate in the hiring process will almost always beat a competitive offer.

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  • 1 point 3 months ago

    Stephanie assessing character is indeed very subjective - you rely mainly on intuition. I've found that judging character is best done by skilled interviewers or by testing. If testing is not an option, behavioral interviewing may very well be the key.

    The person assessing character should be the decision maker. When I was recruiting and later coaching interviewers, I would develop behavioral interview questions that mapped to the character attributes requested be the manager. For example, I would get a job from a manager, schedule a call or a short meeting and ask to speak about the job for a couple of minutes. During the meeting I would follow the triangle:

    Ability: What skills must the candidate have for you to review a resume?
    Talent: What do you want this person to do in 6-12 months?
    Character: What kind of person are you looking for? Who do you want to work with?

    Typically, when qualifying character, managers tend to look for attributes that they "think" mirror their own. They want a hard worker, a self-starter, someone that will finish projects at all costs, a team-player, someone motivated and self-aware. I would take some notes and follow up with the manager later in the day to suggest some questions for assessing character.

    For example:
    Hard Worker:
     What was your favorite job? Why?
     What was the hardest job you ever had? Why?
     How often are you late to work? What is the most common reason?
     Would your current/most recent employer say you are punctual?
     Would your current employer say you are a harder worker than your colleagues?
     Do you need to take smoke breaks?
     How often do you conduct personal business while at work?
     When was the last time you missed an important deadline?
     Everyone procrastinates at times. What are some of the things you procrastinate?
     How would you describe your work habits.
    How many hours per week would you say you have worked in the last year?

    Self-Starter:
     What motivates you?
     From a professional standpoint, who do you look up to?
     Do you want to be the best? Or, would you rather play a supporting role?

    Team-Player:
     Do you prefer working in a team or solo?
     What experience do you have working in a team environment?
     Give me an example of a time when your worked in a team to accomplish something difficult.
     How do you react when given a task that you feel is below you?
    Describe a situation when you worked in a dysfunctional team. Looking back on it, what were the reasons for the dysfunction and what would you do over if in that situation again?

    Self-Awareness:
     What is the biggest mistake you've made in the last 5 years and what did you learn from it?
     In what professional areas do you think you need improvement?
     What would you most like to learn at this job?

    By providing a framework takes a fair amount of the subjectivity out of the feedback process and makes communication with managers about candidates much more productive.

     

  • 1 point 3 months ago

    Can you give more detail around the Character quantification? As you said, it's nebulous, and I would say "squishy". Do you ever hear the 'gut feeling' words? I really encourage managers to tell me why they are feeling anxious about a candidate that has the skills and ability to do the job, but something is keeping them from pulling the trigger. Typically, with enough dialog, we can pull out a statement that the candidate made that made the manager uncomfortable. I'd love to hear more about how you quantify Character and some of the measurements you use.

    Great stuff!

    Steph